Chintu (theraynmaker): Atheism is actually a well recognised and respected facet of Ancient Indian School of thought. They were called ‘Charvaks’, ones who believed that matter is the only true reality and nothing else. Sorry, but had to burst your bubble.
ExHindu (I_can_believe_that) : Sorry, Looks like I’ve to burst your puny ego. Charvaka comes from the Sanskrit verb Charv - which means “to devour”. In mahabharata, Charvakas were thought be demons who’ve devoured their spiritual self, that’s why they’re thought to be materialistic and against vedic gods.
Here is a verse from Mahabharata (Pancham Khand): Shanti Parva, 38.22-27, 39.2-11, Gita Press.
इमे प्राहुर्द्विजाः सर्वे समारोप्य वचो मयि। धिग्भवन्तं कुनृपतिं ज्ञातिघातिनमस्तु वै।। किं तेन स्याद्धि कौन्तेय कृत्वेमं ज्ञातिसंक्षयम्। घातयित्वा गुरूंश्चैव मृतं श्रेयो न जीवितम्।। When the celebrations for the Pandavas’ victory and Yudhishthir’s coronation were going on and the brahmins stood silently after paying their obeisance (निःशब्दे च स्थिते तत्र ततो विप्रजने पुनः), Charvaka came forward and started addressing on their behalf, of course, without taking any permission. He accused Yudhishthir of fratricide and thus unfit to live
ततस्ते ब्राह्मणाः सर्वे स च राजा युधिष्ठिरः। व्रीडिताः परमोद्विग्नस्तूष्णीमासन्विशांपते।। His fearless statement stunned everybody. Yudhishthir and the Brahmins were speechless, afraid and ashamed
स पपात विनिर्दग्धस्तेजसा ब्रह्मवादिनाम्। महेन्द्राशनिनिर्दग्धः पादपोऽङ्कुरवानिव।। Regaining some crowd spirit, these Brahmins started accusing Charvaka of being a demon and a friend of Duryodhana. Eventually, they killed him with their anger.
स एष निहतः शेते ब्रह्मदण्डेन राक्षसः। चार्वाको नृपतिश्रेष्ठ मा शुचो भरतर्षभ।। Since Yudhishthir was quite evidently moved by the incident, a whole section is devoted where Lord Krishna consoles him, while demonizing Charvaka and justifying the act as preordained.
Anyone with a tiny drop of common sense wouldn’t believe that the religion, which discriminated it’s own people of lower-class for thousands of years and denied education for lower-class & women and pushed them to jump in fire after their husband’s death would be willing accept atheists who were against their gods & entire beliefs.
I mean how dumb can you religious clowns could possibly be? And as expected you’ve zero Knowledge on your own stupid religion.
Chintu (theraynmaker): I thought Mahabharata was a myth. Very convenient to cite Mahabharata when it suits you narrative ain’t it?
Anyways you are confusing it with the Charvak School of Thought which was very popular in India before the emergence of Buddhism.
A simple Wiki search will resolve your doubts.
Also I don’t identify with any religion. I think religion is organised madness.My geographical identity is Hindu though.
I’m just a seeker who’s trying to unravel the mysteries of creation and consciousness. When you have an answer to that, maybe we can have tea together.
exhindu (I_can_believe_that) : I’m not confusing anything, you’re the one shamelessly trying to defend your backward religion. You believe in a wiki article written by Hindus saying Charvaka (which is a derogatory word for Lokayatiks) was a part of Hinduism? Genius man genius.... no words.
Let me educate you more with verses from Vedas which condones violence on godless:
3 verses from the Rig Veda translated by Griffiths.
The foolish, faithless, rudely-speaking miser, without belief or sacrifice or worship, - Far far sway hath Agni chased Dasyus, and, in the cast, hath turned the godless westwards. Rig Veda 7.63.5
O Pavamanas, driving off the godless, looking on the light, Sit in the place of sacrifice. Rig Veda 9.13.9
Performing every noble work, active, augmenting Indra’s strength, Driving away the godless ones. Rig Veda 9.63.5
Now use a tiny drop of your brain, do you really they were welcoming atheists with open arms? stop being so delusional, ffs.
Now don’t tell me that Vedas are myths too, ancient scholars and priests were all educated with Vedas.
If you really wanna learn about the universe and human consciousness, learn science not some mystic dumbo-jumbo from sadhguru.
Next time I’ll share verses from Charvaka sasthi too.
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