Thursday, December 02, 2021

Mahabaratha about Continents

This is fake.

This is the verse quoted: https://mahabharataonline.com/translation/mahabharata_06005.php

"'O son of Kuru's race, I will, however, describe to thee the island called Sudarsana. This island, O king, is circular and of the form of a wheel. It is covered with rivers and other pieces of water and with mountains looking like masses of clouds, and with cities and many delightful provinces. It is also full of trees furnished with flowers and fruits, and with crops of diverse

kinds and other wealth. And it is surrounded on all sides with the salt ocean. As a person can see his own face in a mirror, even so is the island called Sudarsana seen in the lunar disc. Two of its parts seem to be a peepul tree, while two others look like a large hare. It is surrounded on all sides with an assemblage of every kind of deciduous plants. Besides these portions, the rest is all water. What remains I will describe to thee shortly. The rest I will speak of afterwards. Listen now to this that I describe in brief. "

There's the full quote. No mention of how they are configured.

 It mentions an island called Sudarshana, not the Earth (Bhoomi would have been used). Let's assume that Sudarshana meant Bhoomi. It's been compared to a wheel/chakra. Flat Earth? The drawing in the whatsapp meme is an interpolation of the verse on existing maps of the continents. It has also added in Australia as another peepal leaf which wasn't mentioned in the chapter.

Even if the poem had said the world is "three omelets and a python", someone who's seen a map can force fit the drawings to create an illusion that the poet was a genius.

 Reminds me of Muslims who would twist random quotes from Quran to imply Quran knew about modern science. People (muslims or hindus) making these claims do so because they don't have real achievements.

 


Monday, November 29, 2021

Quotes By Prabhupada (ISKCON)

 

The Aryans are white. But here, this side, due to climatic influence, they are a little tan. Indians are tan but they are not black. But Aryans are all white. And the non-Aryans, they are called black. Yes. (Ref. VedaBase => Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.6 -- Bombay, November 6, 1970)
Dravidian culture. Dravida. They are non-Aryans. Just like these Africans, they are not Aryans. Now they are mixing up with Europeans and Americans. In India, it was, one from the higher section, brahmana, ksatriya, vaisya, they will be fair complexion. Sudras, black. So if a brahmana becomes black, then he's not accepted as brahmana. Kala bahu (?). And if a sudra becomes fair, then he's to be know that he's not pure sudra. (Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation -- August 2, 1976, New Mayapur, French
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So on the whole, the conclusion is that the Aryans spread in Europe also, and the Americans, they also spread from Europe. So the intelligent class of human being, they belong to the Aryans, Aryan family. Just like Hitler claimed that he belonged to the Aryan family. Of course, they belonged to the Aryan families. (Ref. VedaBase => Bhagavad-gita 9.3 -- Melbourne, April 21, 1976)
Sometimes he becomes a great hero -- just like Hiranyakasipu and Kamsa or, in the modern age, Napoleon or Hitler. The activities of such men are certainly very great. (Ref. VedaBase => SB 4.25.10)
Ah, yes. So these English people, they were very expert in making propaganda. They killed Hitler by propaganda. I don't think Hitler was so bad man. (Ref. VedaBase => Room Conversation -- June 17, 1976, Toronto)
No, no. Hitler knew it [the atom bomb]. . . . No, no. He knew it, everything, but he did not like to do it. He said. He said. He was gentleman. But these people are not gentlemen. He knew it perfectly well. He said that "I can smash the whole world, but I do not use that weapon." The Germans already discovered. But out of humanity they did not use it. And all the, your American, other countries, they have stolen from German ideas. (Ref. VedaBase => Morning Walk -- November 20, 1975, Bombay)
Therefore Hitler killed these Jews. They were financing against Germany, Otherwise he had no enmity with the Jews. . . . And they were supplying. They want interest money - - "Never mind against our country." Therefore Hitler decided, "Kill all the Jews." (Ref. VedaBase => Conversation During Massage -- January 23, 1977, Bhuvanesvara)

Sex Life as a Hare Krishna (ISKCON) member

 

Like many cults, ISKCON (International Society for Krishna Consciousness or Hare Krishna movement) has its set of weird rules about sex-life of its members.

First of all, forget masturbation and premarital sex. It's strict No. They even have a booklet describing the position to sleep in and taking shower while wearing a dhoti/towel, so you won't look at your own genitals and get aroused to masturbate.

If you think you'll enjoy sex after getting married to a fellow Hare Krishna member, you can't be more wrong. In Prabhupada's (founder of ISKCON) own words "There are restrictions for the householders even in sex life, which should only be engaged in for the propagation of children. If he does not require children, he should not enjoy sex life with his wife." Apparently, people who use contraceptives are demoniac in nature according to Mr Prabhupada. (Source: Bhagvadgita As it Is, Chapter 16, Verse 1&2)

Suppose, if you follow the previous rule and come to a point where you decide to have children. Now you can engage in sex with your own spouse without angering the God and Mr Prabhupada! Cheers! But it's not as simple as that. You've to go through a small rituals of chanting 50 Rounds of Hare Krishna Mahamantra (ie 50x108 times chanting Hare Krishna Mahamantra). It takes approximately 2 hours to do 16 rounds. So you can calculate how much time you need to do 50 Rounds. And you have to do it every time you are trying for children. (Source: A Beginner's Guide to Krishna Consciousness)

Also, I've heard that you are supposed to declare to your immediate Guru that you'll be "trying tonight".

Now, let's take a look at Mr Prabhupada's life. Although he was from an affluent family and was well educated, at the age of 22 he married an 11 year old girl. And she gave birth to a child when she was 14. On multiple occasions, Mr Prabhupada has stated that he hated his wife. And yet he had atleast 3 children with her. What a lovely Guru! What a lovely cult!