Tuesday, June 28, 2022

Problems in Hinduism

 

A lot of Hinduism is a bunch of chants, rituals & stories that act as software to support the idea of a hierarchical society that functions along the lines of division of labour.

There are categories for the priests/ educators ie the brahmins, the warriors kshatriyas, the trading class the vaishyae & the Dalits who are the lowest category who do the menial jobs. This was how it was for close to three thousand years. Affirmative action aka reservations has changed things marginally. Caste related violence is an everyday reality. Especially in the rural heartland.

If you look at the lower castes along most social & economic parameters they would be very marginalised. Also the caste system is so sophisticated that each caste has somebody above or below them. If the Brahmins have respect & education, the Khatriyas have political power, the Vaishyas have business clout. The lower castes have sub caste divisions so there is always someone above or below.

Add to that, in the new political climate now, there is this feeling that Hindus are in danger from Muslims. This is unfounded & a political ploy to divide largely uneducated masses who do not understand the mechanisms of oppression surrounding them. So there is an atmosphere of hate around the very idea of being Hindu. The idea of being Hindu is also married to the idea of the Nation. So secular thinkers are seen as anti national. The number of hate crimes have risen.

Mob lynchings & riots are par for course. A lot of the hate plays out on a totally subservient ( with some exceptions ) media that tows the Govt line).

Also Hinduism does not work like Abrahamic religions where conquest & missionary work increase the numbers. Hinduism co opts. This is the DNA. So for example if I am a feudal King following a certain God, lets say Vishnu. If this feudal king wants to take over some tribal forest land, conquest is not the only option. He'll build a temple there with Vishnu as the main deity & in that temple the tribal God will become the susidiary deity. An organic mythology retrospectively springs around it in such a way that the Hero of the tribal narrative becomes a sidekick in the Hindu narrative. This is the way we have a living mythology.

Also we do not much recorded history so we have a greater relationship with mythology more than history.

In the present atmosphere of hate the battle for the future is being fought about the past. All secular history is disregarded & mythology is often seen through a very literal lens. This makes it very easy to manipulate the masses & misdirect their energies into hating the other rather than questioning ineffective Govt policies that are not citizen friendly. The church state distinctions are becoming fuzzier by the day. So the identitity if Hindu carries with it all these complex layers that I have barely scratched the surface off. If you want to help him, ask him open ended questions about his experience of being Hindu, perhaps you might get somewhere.

Tuesday, June 14, 2022

Why do Hindus considers Hinduism to be scientifically correct

 Why do Hindus considers Hinduism to be scientifically correct when it has many errors like Hinduism says: •Earth is stationary [Rig Veda 10.149.1, Rig Veda 10.89.4, Sam Veda 4.1.5.8, Yajur Veda 32.6, Rig Veda 3.30.4]

•Sun moves around Earth with a chariot. [Atharva Veda 6.8.3, Atharva Veda 6.8.3, Atharva Veda 6.12.1 , Rig Veda 1.50.8, 1.50.1]

•Earth is Flat. [Atharva Veda 15.7.1, Rig Veda 1.62.8, Rig Veda 10.58.3, Rig Veda 5.47.2]

•Earth is 50 crore yojanas (600 crore km) [Shiva Purana Videyshavara Chapter 12 verse 2, Matsya Purana 124.12]
600 crore km is neither diameter nor circumference or Earth.

•Moon is twice bigger than Sun. [Linga Purana 57.10-11 ]

Thursday, May 12, 2022

Riddles in Hinduism

 

Dr. BR Ambedkar in his book "Riddles in Hinduism" has devoted an entire chapter which cites several examples from hindu texts showing the hindu gods and holy men indulged in incest, pedophilia, gay sex, rape, kidnapping and even zoophilia. Gay sex is not wrong. It was socially unacceptable when Dr. Ambedkar wrote the book, and he fought for civil rights for gay people. These are examples of how homosexuality was demonized by hindu society when the hindu gods themselves had homosexual escapades.

Here is The text for those who want to read it for themselves

In the Vedas one finds matters relating to seduction, incest, abortion, conjugal infidelity, deception, and robbery as well. Prostitution was common and the prostitutes were called warrangnas. There are some very obscene passages in the Vedas. For example in Rig Veda read the lewd conversation between Pushan and Surya (Rig Veda 10.85.37) and again a similar conversation in Ashwamedha section of Yajur Veda. We will not
Refer to Mandal10. Puranas are full of stories depicting open sexual perversities which we cannot record here and must avoid the stink of immorality.
go into the details of such conversations which may be offensive but we will refer to some of them here briefly. Brahma is considered to be the greatest spiritual leader of the Hindu Trinity and yet if we read Shiv Puran (Ruder Samhita 2 Sati Khand 2 Chapter 19), we find him mentioned as a cheat and a sex maniac. Even at the time of the marriage of Shiva and Parvati Brahma displayed his sexual depravity openly. In the same Granth another lewd story is recorded concerning Shiva and Parvati. Reading the Hindu Shastras and Puranas we find that relation of the sexes among the Vedic Aryans and gods was not ideal. Obviously these standards were later followed by the followers of Hinduism. More than one man shared one woman and none of them had any exclusive rights on the wife. Devas molested the wives of the Rishis or sexually attacked the wives of their colleague Devas. Rape of Ahalya, the wife of Rishi Gautama, by Indra is well known and Indra was the prominent god of the Rig Veda. In Adhyaya 100 of the Vana Parva of the Mahabharata we read that Rishi Vibhandaka cohabited with a female deer and as a result of this intercourse Rishi Shranga was born. In Adhyaya 118 of the Adi Parva of the Mahabharata Rishi Vyas gives us a similar

The popular belief is that Lord Brahma produced the Vedas. He is said to have established sexual relationship with his daughter Saraswati

The story is also found in Mahabharat. It may have come from Greece where goddess Medusa was similarly ravished by god Poseidon.

story of Pandu, the father of the Pandus, who received a curse from Rishi Kadam. According to the story Rishi Kadam issued a curse because he was engaged in sexual intercourse with a deer when Pandu disturbed him. In Adhyaya 63 of the Adi Parva of the Mahabharata Rishi Parashara had sexual intercourse with Satyavati, (also called Matsya Gandha " fisherman"s girl) in public and in broad day light. In Adhyaya 104 of the Adi Parva, Rishi Dirgha is stated to have staged a similar scene in public.

(a) Incest:-
Father-daughter incest occurs in the story of Brahma and his daughter.

Brahma married his own daughter Satarupa.
"Wise, teaching, following the thought of Order, the sonless gained a grandson from his daughter". Fain, as a sire, to see his child prolific, he sped to meet her with an eager spiritR14;.

[RigVeda III .31.1-2]. Hiranyakashpu married his daughter Rohini. Vashista married Shatrupa, Janhu married Janhavi, and Surya married Usha.

(b)Rape
Rape was common. Some examples are Manu-Illa, Surya raped Kunti. Vishnu raped Jalandhar"s wife (Varinda) who later committed suicide. Love-lorn Vishnu did not even let her go after death. He bathed in her ashes, bereaved her death for days and cried loudly.

(c) Sons married their mothers

There are cases where father and son married the same woman; Brahma is the father of Manu. Manu married his mother
Sharadha . Pushan too married his mother.

(d)Marriage with sisters

The discussion of open sex between a brother and sister (Yama and Yami in Rig Veda Mandal X) The description of sexual relationship between Yam and Yami (Brother and sister) is lewd, lascivious, and bawdy. It is a spur to carnality. They did not get married but discussed open sexual relations. From their discussion it is clear that in those days sisters could discuss sexual matters with their brothers and even marry them.
Brahma had three sons Marichi, Daksha and Dharm
and one daughter. Daksha is stated to have married the daughter of Brahma who was his sister (see Adi Parva of the Mahabharata). Other instances are Purukutsa and Narmada, Viprachiti and Simhika, Nahusa and Viraja, Sukra and Usanas, Amavasu and Go, Amsumat and Yasoda, Suka and Pivari.

Pushan is the lover of his sister Achoda. "Attendant on the Blessed Dame the Blessed one hath come: the Lover followeth his Sister. [Rig Veda X.3.3]

Agni is the lover of his own sister. R13;P$3;san, who driveth goats for steeds, the strong and Mighty, who is called His Sister"s lover, will we laudR14;.
[Rig Veda VI.55.4] Ashvins were the sons of Savitar and Usha who were brother and sister. Krishna was married with his uncle"s Satrajit"s daughter and Krishna"s son Priduman was married with his matenal uncle Rukmaya"s daughter.

(e) Selling & hiring of women:
There is evidence that the ancient Aryans also sold their women (wives and daughters). When a daughter was sold her marriage was known as Arsha marriage. This was done through Go-Mithuna (giving away one cow and one bull to the girls" father as price )R13; When (the father) gives away his daughter according to the rule, after receiving from the bridegroom, for (the fulfillment of the sacred law, a cow and a bull or two pairs, that is named the Arsha rite".
(Manu Simrti 3.29)
"Some call the cow and the bull given as on Arsha wedding R15;a gratuity" but that is wrong. The acceptance of the fee great or small is a sale of the daughter." (Manu II)

Women were also rented to others for cohabitation. In the Mahabharata we read that Madhavi was the daughter of King Yayati. Yayati made a gift of her to Galwa Rishi. Galwa rented her out to three kings one after the other. After the third, Madhavi was returned to Galwa. She was now given by Galwa to his Guru Vishvamitra. Vishvamitra kept her till he begot a son. After this he returned her to her father.

(f) Niyoga " mistreatment of women

Niyoga is the Aryan name for a system under which a wedded woman was legally permitted to beget a son from another person, not her husband. There was no limit to the number of men a woman could go for Niyoga. Madhuti and Ambika had one Niyoga each. Saradandayani had three. Vayusistasva was permitted to have 7 and Vali is known to have allowed as many as 17 Niyogas to one of his wives. With the consent of the husband a Niyoga could last from one night to twelve years or more. Jatila-Gautami had 7 husbands. In The Mahabharata Daropadi had five husbands and Pandu allowed his wife Kunti to have four Niyogas. Karna was the premarital first born brother of the Pandus through Nyoga.

Abduction and disrobing of women in public is evident in the Mahabharta. Daropadi was disrobed in front of her near relatives.

In Shiv Puran Ruder Samhita (4.12) we read that Shiva ran after the wives of the Rishis completely naked. On account of this indecency he had to lose his male organ. In the temples at Jagan Nath, Konark, and Bhuneshwar of Orissa there are statues of naked women in very objectionable poses. Similar poses are openly depicted on the outside of the temples at Khajuraho. Even Mahatma Gandhi was of the opinion that KhajurahoTemples should be demolished.
Such stories do not lead to spiritualism or to ideal sexual behavior which is expected from religious leaders. It is for this reason that Gurbani says, "Dirty was Brahma and dirtier still was the moon. Shiva, Shankra and Mahesha too did not fare well." (P.1158)

Saturday, December 11, 2021

Did Winston Churchill cause the Bengal Famine?

I am seriously concerned about the food situation in India….Last year we had a grievous famine in Bengal through which at least 700,000 people died. This year there is a good crop of rice, but we are faced with an acute shortage of wheat, aggravated by unprecedented storms….By cutting down military shipments and other means, I have been able to arrange for 350,000 tons of wheat to be shipped to India from Australia during the first nine months of 1944. This is the shortest haul. I cannot see how to do more.
I have had much hesitation in asking you to add to the great assistance you are giving us with shipping but a satisfactory situation in India is of such vital importance to the success of our joint plans against the Japanese that I am impelled to ask you to consider a special allocation of ships to carry wheat to India from Australia….We have the wheat (in Australia) but we lack the ships. I have resisted for some time the Viceroy’s request that I should ask you for your help, but… I am no longer justified in not asking for your help


- Winston S. Churchill to President Franklin D. Roosevelt, 29 April 1944. Prime Minister’s Personal Telegram T.996/4 (Churchill papers, 20/163.)
Does this really sound like the writing of a man who has no cares about the people affected? Reality there was a war on, food was in short supply, shipments liable to be blown up on high seas. 20 to 25 million died global of famine in ww2. Tragic but not down to one man.

Hinduism on Pre-Pubescent marriage for girls

SKANDA PURANA 4.40.34-35

34. If a virgin girl has her first menstruation in her father’s house without her marriage being solemnised, her father should be known as a *Bhrūṇahā* (‘destroyer of a foetus’) and that girl a Vṛṣalī (Śūdra (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/shudra#purana) girl). He who, out of delusion, marries her will be the husband of a Śūdra girl.

35. He is an *Apāṅkteya* (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/apankteya#purana) (not fit to sit in the same row as the others at the time of meals). The very conversation with him should be abandoned forever.

SKANDA PURANA 4.40.38-43

38. Women are enjoyed first by Suras (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/sura#purana), Soma (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/soma#purana), Gandharva (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/gandharva#purana) and Vahni (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vahni#purana). Men enjoy them afterwards. They are not defiled by anything.

39. Soma gave women cleanliness; Pāvaka (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/pavaka#purana) (Fire-god (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/fire-god#hinduism)), purity above all. Gandharvas (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/gandharvas#hinduism) gave them auspicious speech. Therefore, women are always pure.

40. Agni (https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/agni#purana) enjoys a virgin at the time of the menstruation, the Moon when the (pubic) hair begin to grow and Gandharvas when the breasts begin to develop. Hence a girl is to be given in marriage before this.

41. A girl with hairs visible (before marriage is consecrated) kills her children; she with the breasts in developed form destroys the family; she who has menstruated destroys the father. Hence one should avoid all (such girls).

42. Hence one who is desirous of the benefit of gift of a virgin should give her in marriage before Agni and others enjoy her. If not, the giver does not enjoy any benefit; one who receives her in marriage falls down (incurs sin).

43. One who gives away a girl not enjoyed by Soma and others, attains the benefit of the religious gift. Giving her who has been enjoyed by Devas, the donor does not attain heavenly pleasures.

SOURCE:

https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/the-skanda-purana/d/doc423778.html


Hinduism not only promotes pre-pubescent marriage, but also promises disgrace and sin if one doesn't marry his daughter before she starts menstruating.

a) Out of fear of the appearance of the menses let the father marry his daughter while she still runs about naked. For if she stays (in the house) after the age of puberty, sin falls on the father. (Vashishta Dharmasutra, 17.70.

b) A girl should be given in marriage before (she attains the age of) puberty. He who neglects it, commits sin. Some (declare, that a girl shall be given in marriage) before she wears clothes. (Gautama dharmasutra, 18.21-23)

c) Let him give his daughter, while she still goes naked, to a man who has not broken the vow of chastity and who possesses good qualities, or even to one destitute of good qualities; let him not keep (the maiden) in (his house) after she has reached the age of puberty. He who does not give away a marriageable daughter during three years doubtlessly contracts a guilt equal to (that of) destroying an embryo. Such will be the case if anybody asks her in marriage, and also if nobody demands her. Manu has declared that at each appearance of the menses (the father incurs the guilt of) a mortal sin. (Baudhyana Dharamsutra, 4.1.11-13)

This one is interesting in the liberty it gives to men:

A damsel whose menses begin to appear (while she is living) at her father's house, before she has been betrothed to a man, has to be considered as a degraded woman: by taking her (without the consent of her kinsmen) a man commits no wrong. (41) (Vishnu Smriti, 24. 41. {One commentator Nanda says that this rule was made for lower caste women. Though later on, the author who quoted Nanda says that outcasting young unwedded girl has become/is in vogue among Brahmanical families too.}

"The purpose of marraige, he (a hindu) declares, quoting his sacred writs in proof, is to beget sons - as many sons as possible, beginning as soon as possible, of a wife as young as possible". - quoted from Mother India, chapter 4.

Srila prabhupada says: Practically, I'll say, in our childhood age, my sisters were married between nine to twelve years. My eldest sister was married when she was nine years old, before my birth. She is the eldest. And my second sister was married at the age of twelve, twelve years. And my third sister was married at the age of (indistinct) years. So by the (indistinct) years, the marriage must be finished. That was the duty of the father. I remember, because my second sister was going twelve years, my mother said to my father that "I shall go to the river and commit suicide. The daughter is not married." Source: http://www.prabhupada.org.uk/articles1/48_53/48.htm